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Archív technických tém

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Dotaz ku wikicommons...

Viem že obrázky, ktoré chcem nahrať do článku musia byť na wiki-commons, ale... Môžem na wiki-commons nahrať obrázok zo stránky, ktorá nepodlieha licenciám uvádzaným tu, ale mám mailové potvrdenie na oprávnené využívanie daných obrázkov? Olilongi777 (diskusia) 07:55, 30. jún 2017 (UTC)

Tak teda diky :D Olilongi777 (diskusia) 16:30, 5. júl 2017 (UTC)

Mohol by si byť konkrétnejší? --MDsmajlik (diskusia; príspevky) 16:50, 5. júl 2017 (UTC)

@Olilongi777: Ak sú obr. už zverejnené na stránke pod neslobodnou licenciou, nie je to moc slávne východisko. Postup ale existuje, viď Commons:OTRS sekcie Licensing images: when do I contact OTRS? a If you are NOT the copyright holder. Ďalšia možnosť by asi bola, keby skutočný autor zavesil fullres originály dotyčných fotografií vrátane EXIF metadát napr. na Flickr pod licenciou CC-BY. Následne by sa mali dať naimportovať na Commons s automaickou verifikáciou (cez upload formulár alebo nástrojom). --Teslaton (diskusia) 17:34, 5. júl 2017 (UTC)

@Teslaton: Výborne, toto som potreboval, vďaka :) --Olilongi777 (diskusia) 20:41, 5. júl 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-27

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• There was a problem with maps on Wikimedia wikis that used <mapframe> when you clicked on the link to another map service. Open Street Map or Google Maps are examples of other map services. If you had marked a place on the map the marker would not be in the same place on the other map service. It was in the middle of the map. This has now been fixed. [1]

Changes this week

• Very old and inactive unpublished translations in the Content Translation database will be removed. This is because of technical maintenance. If you have not worked on a translation after 1 January 2016 you will lose it after 6 July. If you want to keep the unfinished translation you need to open it before 6 July with the Content Translation tool. You can continue working on it later. Translations that were started or have been worked on after 1 January 2016 will not be affected.
• There is no new Mediawiki version this week.
• EventStreams is a new way to show activity on Wikimedia wikis. It works with the recent changes feed. It will do more things later. It will replace RCStream. Tools that use RCStream should move to EventStreams before 7 July. Tech News wrote about this in the 2017/07 issue. [2]

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15:31, 3. júl 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-28

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• There are sometimes links to pages about the same thing on other Wikimedia projects. A Wikipedia article about Berlin can link to the Wikivoyage guide or Wiktionary entry about Berlin. You can now see when that page has a badge. A badge could be the star that shows that an article is a featured article. [3]

Changes this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 júla. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 júla. It will be on all wikis from 13 júla (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 11 júla at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Mobile users will be able to edit Wikipedia without JavaScript. This will make it possible to edit the wikis from older mobile phones. This will probably happen on 18 July for most wikis. [4]
• We will not use Tidy on Wikimedia wikis in the future. It will be replaced by June 2018. It could be earlier. Editors will need to fix pages that could break. You can read the simplified instructions for editors.

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15:07, 10. júl 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-29

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• "Wikimedia Labs" is now called "Cloud VPS". "Wikimedia Tool Labs" is now called "Wikimedia Toolforge". This is to help clarify the purpose of these services. [5]

Problems

• On some pages, the Table of Contents is not being shown. It will normally appear if you edit the page again. Investigation is currently ongoing. [6]

Changes this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 July. It will be on all wikis from 20 July (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 18 July at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
• You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is: Migrate to HTML5 section ids. [7] The meeting will be on 19 July at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Page Previews, currently a Beta Feature, will be enabled for logged-out users for all remaining Wikipedias (with the exception of English and German) the week of 24 July. An A/B test will be run on English Wikipedia to collect data before approaching the community for further discussion. [8]

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22:59, 17. júl 2017 (UTC)

Šablóna

Ahojte, poraďte prosím, ako vytvoriť takúto šablónu - myslím, že by bola vhodným doplnkom článkov nielen o F1. Nenašiel som žiadnu podobnú... Vopred ďakujem za pomoc.--Pe3kZA^✉ 15:03, 22. júl 2017 (UTC)

Preklad/odkuk z českej?--Jetam2 (diskusia) 15:11, 22. júl 2017 (UTC)

Áno, takýto štýl, kde sa dá vložiť komplet základných info o tímoch v akomkoľvek športe.--Pe3kZA^✉ 15:22, 22. júl 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-30

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• CSS in templates will be stored in a separate page in the future. This will make it easier to make templates look good on mobile devices. This now works on mediawiki.org and Wikitech. It will come to more wikis later. [9][10][11]
• .mw-ui-constructive modifier class is deprecated and has been removed. [12]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 júla. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 júla. It will be on all wikis from 27 júla (calendar).
• It will be possible to restrict who can send you notifications on a wiki. This new feature will accessible in your preferences, in the Notifications tab, on Wednesday, July 26. Please see the documentation. [13]

Meetings

• You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 25 júla at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
• You can join the Wikimedia Foundation July 2017 Metrics & Activities Meeting. The meeting is about how Wikipedia and the Wikimedia movement are perceived and understood by the world. The meeting will be on 27 júla at 19:00 (UTC). See the agenda and how to join.

Future changes

• New Filters for Edit Review, at the moment available as a Beta feature, will be released by default for the Recent Changes in September.

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15:57, 24. júl 2017 (UTC)

Kategórie

Ahoj! Poprosil by som tvorcov článkov športových podujatí, aby nezabúdali pridávať aj miestnočasové a miestne kategórie. Príklad je tu. Vďaka!--Jetam2 (diskusia) 17:49, 26. júl 2017 (UTC)

@Maajo25: Ehem, prečo kategórie vyberáš?--Jetam2 (diskusia) 21:35, 26. júl 2017 (UTC)

Ahoj, nemám čas sa vykecávať, ale bol by som ti povďačný, ak by si už nepridával do čisto športových článkov všeobecné kategórie. Nie sú tam vhodné, čo je zároveň dôvod, prečo ich tam, hoci o nich viem, nepridávam. Ďakujem. --Maajo25 (diskusia) 21:49, 26. júl 2017 (UTC)

@Maajo25: Nevhodné? A prečo?--Jetam2 (diskusia) 22:04, 26. júl 2017 (UTC)

Ako som už uviedol vyššie, nepokladám za vhodné zaraďovať do športových (teda tematických) článkov všeobecné kategórie. Ak by boli vytvorené priamo športové kategórie nadradené danému článku, vtedy by to bolo iné. Tie ale nemáme vytvorené a nie je ich potrebné ani vytvoriť, pretože vytvárať kategórie pre kategórie, aby v nich bolo umiestnené maximálne jedno heslo (teraz i s predpokladom do budúcna), je zbytočné. Okrem toho, ponechal som v tých článkoch tie kategórie, o ktorých nie som (zatiaľ) celkom presvedčený, či tam patria, resp. nie. --Maajo25 (diskusia) 21:46, 27. júl 2017 (UTC)

@Maajo25: Ak aj zoberieme ako fakt, že jemnejšie kategórie vytvárať nebudeme (lebo málo obsahu, málo ľudských zdrojov na systematické pokrytie, atď), aká má byť výhoda stavu, kde dotyčný článok nie je z príslušných (v tvojom ponímaní "všeobecných") miestočasových kat. dostupný oproti riešeniu, kedy z nich dostupný je? --Teslaton (diskusia) 21:55, 27. júl 2017 (UTC)

@Maajo25: Keby sa vytvorili kategórie k všetkým športovým článkom čo zakladáš celkom by sa to nazbieralo. Pre menšie mestá stačí keď sa to hodí do mestskéj kategórie a pre ostatné sa hodia práve tie ako "Šport v Ohiu". Kategórie rokov sú tiež dôležité, k ním sa postupne nazbierajú (aj v Kanade sú 3-4 udalosti na jeden rok, v Česku ich je ešte viac, rovnako na Slovensku. Teslaton to tiež dobre zhrnul. Bol by som rád keby si ich začal pridávať. Vďaka!--Jetam2 (diskusia) 02:15, 30. júl 2017 (UTC)

@Maajo25: Rovnako by ma zaujímal myšlienkový pochod, vedúci k takémuto názoru – pls. rozveď. Ak by existovali konkrétnejšie (ako en:Category:2015 in Canadian sports a jej podkat.), patria tam samozrejme tie, keď ale po túto úroveň nejdeme, nevidím dôvod nezaraďovať to aspoň do najbližšiej vyššej (2015 v Kanade). Dtto. lokalita. --Teslaton (diskusia) 21:17, 27. júl 2017 (UTC)

Dopravnocestné kategórie

Zdravím! Druhý dotaz sa týka kategórií pre dopravu. Kategórie v Kategória:Cesty na Slovensku podľa okresu mi prídu príliš podrobné, radšej by som prekategorizoval do Kategória:Doprava na Slovensku podľa okresu. Majú to tak aj na cs.wiki a podľa mňa to dáva lepší prehľad v okresnej dopravnej kategórii. Je cesta tiež "stavba"? Ak je potom by sme mali cesty kategorizovať aj do kategórií s ostatnými stavbami, či už individuálne priamo pod okresnou stavebnou alebo cez okresnú cestnú kategóriu. Čo myslíte?--Jetam2 (diskusia) 18:18, 26. júl 2017 (UTC)

Nikto nič?--Jetam2 (diskusia) 18:41, 6. august 2017 (UTC)

Nakoľko je článkov o cestách u nás pomenej, určite postačuje tá "doprava". Cesta je stavbou, no myslím, že pod týmto názvom sú vnímané skôr mosty, viadukty a tunely. Ja by som cesty nekategorizoval pod stavbu.--Pe3kZA^✉ 19:11, 6. august 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-31

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Some pages show the error Lua error in mw.wikibase.entity.lua at line 34: The entity data must be a table obtained via mw.wikibase.getEntityObject. This problem happens on pages with a Lua module that uses Wikidata. The developers are working on fixing the problem. You can fix a page by opening it for editing and then saving without changing anything. [14]
• Wikidata and German Wikipedia could not be edited for an hour on 28 July. You can read why and how we could avoid it in the future in the incident report.

Changes later this week

• Some wikis already have the larger and brighter OOjs UI edit page buttons. All remaining wikis except Commons will have these from 1 August. [15]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 August. It will be on all wikis from 3 August (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 1 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The default font in the edit window will soon change for some users. Instead of using the browser default it will be monospace. Users can change this in their preferences. This should only change this for some users on Macs and iOS devices. [16]

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21:45, 31. júl 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-32

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can now see which Wikipedia language versions are read in a specific country. This tool is called Wikipedia Views Visualized. [17]
• The Architecture Committee is now the Wikimedia Technical Committee. You can read the charter. [18]

Problems

• You can get an email when a page on your watchlist was edited. You can choose not to get emails for minor edits. There is a bug that means that you then don't get an email when someone does a normal edit after a minor edit. The developers are working on fixing this. Until it has been fixed you can activate "Upozorniť ma e-mailom aj na drobné úpravy stránok a súborov" at the bottom of "Profil" in your preferences if you want to. [19]
• The thanks button sometimes didn't work for mobile users. This was because of a new bug and has now been fixed. [20]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 August. It will be on all wikis from 10 August (calendar).

Future changes

• Editors and readers who still use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP will not be able to use Wikipedia. Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP can't connect securely to the wikis. When we allow them to do so it means that we get less security for everyone else. If you use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP you can install Firefox 52 ESR instead. Around 0.1% of the traffic to the Wikimedia wikis comes from Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP. [21]
• Links to sections on Wikipedia don't work well in languages that don't use the Latin script. The URL in the address bar in your browser shows Latin characters like .D0.A1.D1.81.D1.8B.D0.BB.D0.BA.D0.B8 instead of the section heading in the wiki's language. Links to sections in non-Latin scripts will be in the script of that wiki in the future. This will happen in the next few months. [22][23]
• Wiki pages printed by the web browser "Print" function will have an updated style. This new style will be similar to the when you download a page as PDF. It will be better at showing tables, infoboxes and headings. [24][25]

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21:45, 7. august 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-33

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Bureaucrats can now set users as confirmed. Previously only stewards could do this on most wikis. Nothing will change for wikis that have previously decided to let administrators set users as confirmed. [26]

Problems

• The symbols in the language list that show that an article is good or featured in that language doesn't work. Links to the Commons category in the sidebar doesn't work either. The developers are working on fixing it. [27][28]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 August. It will be on all wikis from 17 August (calendar).

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23:28, 14. august 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-34

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can now test the new Timeless skin on the test wiki and mediawiki.org. You can turn it on in your preferences. You can report bugs in Phabricator. It will come to more wikis soon. [29][30]
• Your watchlist can now have the option to unwatch pages. You have to turn this on in your preferences. [31]
• If a table has several columns you can often choose which column you want to use to sort the table. This has not worked for some columns for readers who have used Firefox or Safari. This has now been fixed. [32]
• The RelatedArticles extension has shown related pages on Wikivoyages. You will now see the related pages at the end of the article together with an image. Previously the links were in the sidebar. Wikis that want this extension can request it on Phabricator.

Changes later this week

• Videos will now be played in the WebM format in all browsers. Previously some browsers used Ogg Theora (.ogv). If you use Safari, Internet Explorer or Edge you may see slower playback speed at high resolutions. Instead we will get better quality and smaller file size. You can still upload video as Ogg files. They are automatically converted to WebM. This doesn't affect Ogg audio files. [33]
• The default font in the edit window will change for some users this week. Instead of using the browser default, it will be monospace. Users can change this in their preferences. This should only change this for some users on Macs and iOS devices. [34]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 August. It will be on all wikis from 24 August (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
• You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 22 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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18:00, 21. august 2017 (UTC)

Rakúske obce

zdravím, mohol by sa nie kto pozrieť na tie rakúske obce - napr. Weiz, Unterfladnitz, Stenzengreith (je ich viac), ja neviem kde a ako to upraviť. --Gepetito (diskusia) 19:52, 23. august 2017 (UTC)

Ahoj! Niekto pomenil tie kódy (zrejme aktualizoval) v šablónach, ale v článkoch ich neupravil… Viď. napr. tu: [35], ale tých šablón je celkovo deväť. --TomášP ✉ 20:13, 23. august 2017 (UTC)

pekne, a teraz to ma upraviť kto? to automatické dopĺňanie infoboxu je pekná vec, ale len vtedy keď sa nič nemení. takéto zmeny poškodia tisíce článkov a kto ich všetky poopravuje?--Gepetito (diskusia) 20:19, 23. august 2017 (UTC)

Možno by s tým Teslaton vedel niečo spraviť so svojím botom. --TomášP ✉ 20:21, 23. august 2017 (UTC)

Je tam dvojitý problém. V prvom rade sú tam neaktuálne kódy dotyčných obcí (napr. Weiz má mať aktuálne 61766 [36][37], nie 61755), zrejme tam došlo k zmenám v evidencii. Nové kódy ale zase nie sú obsiahnuté v našich dátových š. s rozlohami [k.], tie by bolo treba pred prípadnou aktualizáciou čl. (alebo úpravou na ťahanie kódu z WD) tiež aktualizovať, inak tam bude po úprave svietiť chyba zase na inom mieste. Pozriem sa na to, keď budem mať čas. --Teslaton (diskusia) 20:22, 23. august 2017 (UTC)

@Teslaton: Nebolo by nateraz lepšie vrátiť tie aktualizácie z {{Obyvateľstvo-AT}}? Informácie síce nebudú aktuálne, ale aspoň tam nejaké budú… --TomášP ✉ 20:29, 23. august 2017 (UTC)